{"id":76611,"date":"2017-07-21T18:10:39","date_gmt":"2017-07-21T18:10:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/uacrisis.org\/?p=58821"},"modified":"2017-07-23T21:29:24","modified_gmt":"2017-07-23T18:29:24","slug":"58821-navalny-vs-girkin-evidence-war-donbas-annexation-crimea","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/uacrisis.org\/en\/58821-navalny-vs-girkin-evidence-war-donbas-annexation-crimea","title":{"rendered":"Navalny vs Girkin: evidence of the war in Donbas and the annexation of Crimea"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny held a debate with Igor Girkin (Strelkov), former leader of the so-called &#8220;DNR&#8221; militiamen, where they raised questions about Russian aggression in Ukraine, in particular, the war in Donbas and annexation of Crimea. Russian citizen Girkin, who claimed that he was <a href=\"https:\/\/hromadske.ua\/posts\/hirkin-vyznav-shcho-vin-polkovnyk-fsb-odnak-interviu-vidtsenzuruvaly-ohliad-presy\">a Colonel of the FSB<\/a>, headed the Russian sabotage group, which carried out an armed seizure of the city of Sloviansk, Donetsk region in April 2014. In addition, during his &#8220;leadership&#8221; there was an incident when militants downed the Malaysian MH17 Boeing with a rocket launcher &#8220;Buk&#8221;, taken from Russia. In early March 2014, Girkin arrived in Crimea and coordinated the seizure of Ukrainian military bases, local government authorities and autonomy management by Russian servicemen.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Based on this context, Hromadske prepared a selection of the most important quotes spoken at the debate, which are related to Crimea and Donbas &#8211; the occupied and annexed territories of Ukraine, as well as Russia\u2019s involvement in this.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u25ba <em>Navalny\u2019s question about <strong>the seizure of Slovyansk<\/strong>: &#8220;Did you not receive money for your operation from the oligarchs?&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">I took the weapons in Crimea, besides, it was not big money. And, as an officer, I cannot and will not answer the rest of the questions, because if I do, it will deprive me of the officer&#8217;s honor. There are people who continue fighting (<em>in Donbas &#8211; ed<\/em>.), and they depend on me.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u25ba<em>Girkin on <strong>the Boeing MH17 downed <\/strong>in Donbas<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">We did not have the means to shot down a Boeing. I had five &#8220;Igla&#8221; surface-to-area missiles and one &#8220;Strila-10&#8221;, which was in <a href=\"https:\/\/uk.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/%D0%97%D1%83%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%81\">Zugres<\/a> at the time of Boeing&#8217;s fall. I cannot say anything more. I do not follow, do not care about and do not take part in the investigation. I can swear on the Bible that I did not write that <a href=\"https:\/\/hromadske.ua\/posts\/mh17-rik-pislia-katastrofy\">message about the downed Boeing<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u25ba <em>Navalny on <strong>the war in Donbas<\/strong> and Russia\u2019s involvement<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">The war you started is an expensive thing that destroys Russia&#8217;s economy. No, Russia cannot wage a war. Events in Donbas are horrible events \u2013 10,000 people have been killed. There is Minsk-II, you may not agree with them. But the leaders of these &#8220;republics&#8221; (<em>self-proclaimed &#8220;LPR&#8221; and &#8220;DPR&#8221; \u2013 ed.<\/em>) and the Kremlin, Europe, USA, Ukraine are part of these processes. But Russia has no money for this war. You said, &#8220;We will still fight&#8221;. No, we will not. We do not want to fight. I would like to stop it all.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u25ba<em>Girkin on <strong>the invasion<\/strong> <strong>of Donbas and Crimea<\/strong>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">I could have come anywhere: to Odesa or Melitopol. But I came to Donbas to give the Russians the right to self-determination rather than to unleash a war. I was not afraid to be killed. I would not have gone to Crimea and Donbas if I had been afraid. There were many situations when I might have been killed. And then such conditions were set forth that I could not stay there. However, I cannot say what conditions. It is a secret.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u25ba <em>Navvalny\u2019s question: &#8220;Has <strong>the war in Ukraine<\/strong> improved anybody\u2019s life?&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">I think that we should not speak about whether the war has improved the life of people in Ukraine until its end.\u00a0 We should not speak about this until a complete union with Russia. We have been parted. Therefore, it makes no sense to speak about something like that until we are not together.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u25ba<em>Girkin on <strong>the end of the war in Donbas.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">There will be no reconciliation with Ukraine for as long as there is the acting government in Kyiv. The war is inevitable.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u25ba <em>Girkin on <strong>the leaders of the self-proclaimed &#8220;LPR&#8221; and &#8220;DPR&#8221;. <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Putin betrayed the whole &#8220;Novorossiya&#8221;, although he could free it. He betrayed entire Ukraine. Putin turns it into the second Poland. For me, both Plotnitsky <em>(&#8220;LPR&#8221; leader &#8211; ed.) <\/em>and Zakharchenko <em>(\u201cDPR&#8221; leader &#8211; ed.)<\/em> are traitors. I came as a volunteer and appointed myself a commander. I was not a citizen of Donbas. When they became the heads of &#8220;republics&#8221;, they signed the Minsk agreements and thus betrayed entire Donbas.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u25ba <em>Girkin on his <strong>return to Donbas.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">I received nothing for my escape from Donbas or for my service. I am living even worse now. Before the events in Donbas and Crimea, my income was high. Now I am a hired worker. I live on a salary and a pension. I do not have anything else.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny held a debate with Igor Girkin (Strelkov), former leader of the so-called &#8220;DNR&#8221; militiamen, where they raised questions about Russian aggression in Ukraine, in particular, the war in Donbas and annexation of Crimea. 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